and that's what hillary said and panetta and joe biden and susan rice. after that i heard nothing until you talked to the people in the media. absolutely nothing. >> what did leon -- what did the president say to you specifically? and hillary clinton and leon panetta, did she say it was about a film? >> susan rice total me specifically it was a phillip and it was not a -- film and it was not a terrorist attack. >> that it was not a terrorist attack. >> exactly. she said that days afterwards too when i saw her on tv. they told me -- in fact, about three or four days, all those big shots over there were saying it was not a terrorist attack. >> did you ask -- >> it didn't gel right for me because of all the other things that i heard. so -- i can't tell you specifics. just everything did not add up right. >> it's important to hear from pat smith on many levels. because embassador stevens has gotten so much attention, rightfully. it's a shocking event for this country, but sometimes that's eclipsed the other three americans who had children, wives, families a